Sinicuichi 2 : my second experience with Heimia salicifolia, at a much higher dose !

For my first experience with the legal plant sometimes called an “entheogen”, please see this post.

This time i am going to document my experience with it live.


For dosage & further info, i would recommend the usual, ie Erowid, here and here.

I brewed it (7g of dried leaves) in a cup of hot water for at least 15 mins, then decided to bung it all in a small pan to heat it up a bit (5-10 mins). Definitely made the juice greener, and the leaves then sank to the bottom.

Finally finished gulping down the bitter mess. Had forgotten to tear the leaves into very small pieces. Was left with a big almost spaghetti-like mix to literally eat from a spoon.


Feeling an extremely slight quasi-nausea maybe…


Feel like my eyes are having a hard time focusing. Feeling a little more relaxed possibly…or is that just me expecting to feel more relaxed ? Last time after about 20 minutes i starting feeling great, if i remember correctly.

While we wait for more effects to kick in, i will briefly relate my previous experience.
Great feeling. Then i went through a good session of Temazcal / steam room, and was too tired to last till the end. Got out, had some fruit i think, was exhausted, and started to feel the pain in the muscles. It was like you’d exercised every muscle in your body, and each & every one was in pain. Being on the scooter, i could feel every slight bump ripple through my abs in a wave of pain. Shortly afterwards i went to the French Alps and walked up steep hills a fair bit : for the first time in over 25 years of going to the same places, i felt like i was invincible. Of course, i wasn’t, but i could walk straight up the steepest parts and my legs could take it. The muscles in my thighs didn’t just start burning after a couple of minutes. I felt like i could do it and i could.

Feeling relaxed enough i guess, maybe a tad sleepy. Not unpleasant, but not euphoric by any means.
I’m also a tad hungry now, but that’s just because i haven’t eaten for many hours.


Definitely feeling more relaxed now, nice. Can feel the bottom of my legs relaxing. Hope things continue down this path… 😉


Still feeling nice & relaxed, no change.
While we wait for more, i should point out that yesterday i upgraded the weights i use for my exercise by 4kg and my biceps have been painful all day. It’ll be interesting to see whether they start hurting me more than the rest later on or not.

I can feel a slight pressure inside my head, like some kind of dilation of the brain. If it were a lot stronger it might be described as a headache. Still feeling pretty good & relaxed, though.

Still feeling relaxed. Still have the slight pressure inside my skull.
Just re-read my post about the first experience, was quite interesting. You see, this is why i have this blog in the first place : so i can get accurate recollections of things i have lived, even months or years later. I couldn’t recall half of what i put in the post and was really surprised. Especially by this : that first time there was just a tea-spoon’s worth. Sweet Jesus, this time i had around 3 ! So the first time it must have been around 3 grams.
I don’t know if drinking green tea alongside it interacts/cancels it out at all, but for accuracy’s sake i have been sipping green tea ever since i drank the bitter brew.

I cannot explain this, and it is going to sound weird : my hearing is starting to feel different…whatever that means !

The muscles in my left arm are starting to hurt me a lot when i stretch my arm.

The muscles in all my body are starting to hurt.

Everything hurts from the inside out. My arse, my lungs, my abs deep down, my throat, my face, my arms & legs…it’s easy to forget what this feels like, but when it’s back it’s a whack in the face.
It’s at this point that you really wonder why the hell you took it in the first place.

12:10 the following day
Sure can feel those muscles, geeez. Not as bad as last night or this morning, though. Skipped exercising yesterday but might try some weights today. Won’t go running, however… :-/

A legal plant you’ve never heard of — Sinicuichi (Heimia salicifolia)

So two months ago i had never even considered anything other than Ayahuasca, and hadn’t even tried that yet. A week ago i met Peyote and a few days ago i discovered a bit of an enigma : Sinicuichi, also presented to me as ‘Yukutuchi’. If you do a search on the latter you probably won’t find a single result outside of this page.
Update (2015-04-23) : actually, there is a page here about that plant but it seems to be different altogether.
sinicuichi (Heimia salicifolia) Now i would never try anything new without assuring myself beforehand of its harmlessness. I wasn’t able to address that doubt this time, however i was being offered it by someone i trust and who takes it herself every month or two. I took the odds. You’ll find a link at the bottom of this page for further info and if you have had experience with it then please post a comment. My experience isn’t really over it seems — i was told it takes 2 or 3 days to feel the full effects, but so far it’s not bad at all ! 🙂 Here’s what i had been told before i took it : it focusses on your tendons & muscles. It will repair any cells there that need to be. And every muscle in your body will hurt you for a day or two. Hmm, ok ? Aha, but then, once the pain has gone, you’ll feel like Spider Man ! I see ! Now you’re talking ! Well i’ve never had much of a crush on Spider Man, i’m more of a Batman sort of guy myself. But she seemed enthusiastic about it, so why not give it a go. It turns out that she had very little of this flower, enough for a table spoon maybe. You crush it in a molcajete until you have a powder, then you mix it with water. It’s bitter, a little like Peyote. 20 minutes in things start to slow down a little bit, your vision doesn’t seem so good, a little as if you were drunk but without the drunkenness. You’re in a pretty relaxed place. I think one should be careful of not getting too used to that because it could possibly cause an addiction. As the nice feelings were settling in, i got the vibrations in the hands & forearms & legs, as you do with Ayahuasca & Peyote. At first you describe it as pins & needles, ie numbness, but really i think it is the opposite : you are not feeling less but more. You feel the energy you are made of vibrating. You feel your existence within this physical realm more intensely. That is probably due to the vasodilation caused by the Sinicuichi (see the FAQ link at the bottom of this page). It’s not a worrying feeling to me, rather it’s as if you can feel the medicine creeping through the intricacies of your body. When the euphoria wears off, your arse starts to hurt. Every muscle in your body starts to hurt. But it doesn’t hit you too suddenly. Now about 1 hour after taking this plant i went into a temazcal for roughly 2h30. I came out a wreck, worse than i do usual, very very tired, extremely hungry, and this time i found out what it meant to REALLY FEEL YOUR BODY. Sweet jesus almighty ! I could feel my LUNGS, my THROAT deep down as far as it goes, my stomach… Every breath reminded you of all those organs inside you. When i got on the scooter to go home, boy, every little bump in the road was a reminder that i was here in this body. All that was yesterday. Today, i can still feel the muscles, but not as much as this morning when i got up. I don’t have joint pain, contrary to what i was promised by the lady who gave me the plant to drink. She says that means my joints were fine & didn’t need fixing. Ok, i can live with that. She says you become resistant to it and so you need higher & higher does. We’ll see. I’ll try it again in a month’s time, we’ll see how it goes.